Passage

Isaiah 64

Verses 1–12 WEB Voices

The plea of 63:15–19 continues: Oh that you would tear the heavens, that you would come down; Sinai’s mountains still set the pattern. Historic Judah confesses uncleanness, a burned temple, and cities gone wilderness, and names the Lord Father and potter. This is covenant prayer after exile. The same Father still hears the church that is the work of his hand.

Isaiah 64:1

1Oh that you would tear the heavens, that you would come down, that the mountains might quake at your presence—

Arminian

Wesley: rent is a metaphor from men who, to help one in distress, break and fling open doors. Flow down—that all impediments might be removed; possibly an allusion to God’s coming down upon mount Sinai in those terrible flames of fire.

Prayer that he would come down as at Sinai. He is not absent from ignorance or learning the distress. Israel first; the church still asks him to rend what seems shut. Shared ground with Calvin: the cry is for his presence, not a new God.

Reformed

Calvin: believers burst forth into earnest prayer. God is said to rend the heavens when he unexpectedly gives some uncommon proof of his power; when he renders no assistance he appears shut up in heaven. Come down is adapted to our flesh; he does not move from place to place.

Anthropomorphism, not a finite God climbing down. Same Sinai-shaped plea as Wesley; the accent is that he accommodates himself so we may understand.

Isaiah 64:2

2as when fire kindles the brushwood, and the fire causes the water to boil. Make your name known to your adversaries, that the nations may tremble at your presence!

Arminian

Wesley: come with such zeal for thy people that the solid mountains may be no more before thy breath than metal that runs, or water that boils by a vehement fire. Known—that thine enemies may know thy power, and that thy name may be dreaded among them.

The nations are to tremble at a name made known—Exodus fire first, then the gospel church.

Reformed

Calvin: he alludes to Sinai, where fire and lightning mingled with violent showers. The melting fire made the waters boil; the mountains flowed at his presence; he opened a passage through the most dreadful obstacles. The prophets include all the benefits of the redemption from Egypt.

The prayer recalls the same testimony from the Exodus. Same trembling nations; he is gracious to his people and formidable to his enemies.

Isaiah 64:3

3When you did awesome things which we didn’t look for, you came down, and the mountains quaked at your presence.

Arminian

Wesley: terrible things may relate to what he did among the Egyptians, though it be not recorded, and afterward in the wilderness. Looked not for—such things as we could never expect. Mountains—kings, princes, and potentates may metaphorically be understood.

Unexpected mercy already happened. The church still pleads the same coming down. Shared ground with Calvin: they saw what they did not look for.

Reformed

Calvin: the Israelites saw what they did not at all expect; although God had forewarned them, that alarming spectacle goes far beyond our senses and the capacity of the human mind.

Sinai still exceeds us. Same unexpected descent; hope is that he will be to us what he showed himself to the fathers.

Isaiah 64:4

4For from of old men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, nor has the eye seen a God besides you, who works for him who waits for him.

Arminian

Wesley: this is to be applied to all the wonderful works God at all times wrought for his people—a plea that they might well expect such things from him now, that had done such wonderful things for their fathers. Waiteth—this may be taken with reference both to the state of grace and glory, those incomprehensible things exhibited through Christ in the mysteries of the gospel.

He works for him who waits; the gospel mysteries in Christ are the same unseen things (1 Cor 2:9). Fathers first; then grace and glory. Shared christology with Calvin: no God besides him; Paul is not twisting the text.

Reformed

Calvin: believers ask nothing strange, only that God may show himself what he showed the fathers. Eye hath not seen a God besides thee that doeth such things to him that waiteth. Paul (1 Cor 2:9) applies this to the gospel, which surpasses the capacity of the human understanding; he added nothing that does not fully agree with the Prophet.

From visible favors faith rises to the invisible; the gracious covenant by which God adopted Abraham’s children into the hope of eternal life. Same God besides whom none acts; the accent is fatherly kindness toward citizens, not ordinary favors enjoyed by the bad.

Isaiah 64:5

5You meet him who rejoices and does righteousness, those who remember you in your ways. Behold, you were angry, and we sinned. We have been in sin for a long time. Shall we be saved?

Arminian

Wesley: meetest—as the father the prodigal. Worketh—that rejoices to work righteousness. Continuance—to those that work righteousness. Be saved—in so doing, in working righteousness.

The Father still runs to meet those who rejoice to work righteousness. He is not surprised into anger. They confess long sin and still ask, shall we be saved? Judah first; the gospel still meets the returning. Shared ground: you were angry, and we sinned.

Reformed

Calvin: formerly thou wast wont to meet the fathers before they were distressed, and to cheer them by thy approach; now thou appearest far distant. They do not murmur; they throw all the blame on themselves. We ought never to think of chastisements without calling to mind our sins. And we shall be saved is rather a wish or a prayer than an affirmation; they betake themselves to God’s everlasting mercy.

They praise what they wish, not what they have already obtained. Same confession of sin; the accent is unchangeable compassion, not salvation by the working itself.

Key contrast Arminians typically hear the Father meeting the prodigal who rejoices to work righteousness, and being saved in that working. Reformed interpreters hear former meeting in prosperity, just anger, and salvation asked as a prayer from everlasting mercy—not from the work. Shared ground: you were angry, and we sinned; shall we be saved?

Isaiah 64:6

6For we have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteousness is like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

Arminian

Wesley: formerly there were some that feared thee; but now we are all as one polluted mass, nothing of good left in us by reason of an universal degeneracy. The very best of us all are no better than the uncleanest things. Taken—carried away to Babylon, as leaves hurried away by a boisterous wind.

Exile first; the church still owns the polluted garment. Shared ground with Calvin: all our righteous deeds cannot stand.

Reformed

Calvin: believers confess their guilt and are justly punished, yet complain of severity to move him to compassion—not to blame God. He speaks of the whole body led into captivity, not a proof-text that every work of every human is loathsome in the abstract. We fade as a leaf; our iniquities, like the wind, carry us away.

The people are justly punished and still pleading. Same unclean people; the accent is captivity under wrath they deserved.

Isaiah 64:7

7There is no one who calls on your name, who stirs himself up to take hold of you; for you have hidden your face from us, and have consumed us by means of our iniquities.

Arminian

Wesley: that calleth—that call upon thee as they ought. Take hold—either to stay thee from departing from us, or to fetch thee back when departed.

None stirs himself as he ought; the fault is theirs, and the hidden face is true. He is not hiding because he cannot find them. Judah; the church still takes hold. Shared ground: no one calls upon your name.

Reformed

Calvin: under “calleth on” is the whole worship of God; ceremonies without the heart are of no value. None earnestly applies his mind to seek God; all are wasted through sloth. Nothing is more desirable than to be perfectly joined to God. Thou hast made us to languish—they ask not to languish any longer amidst so great miseries.

Sloth, not a God who cannot hear. Same hidden face; they pray for alleviation they do not yet feel.

Isaiah 64:8

8But now, LORD, you are our Father. We are the clay and you our potter. We all are the work of your hand.

Arminian

Wesley: notwithstanding all this thou art our father both by creation and by adoption, therefore pity us thy children.

“Father”—creation and adoption both; clay may still plead with the potter. Israel’s “now”; the gospel church is still the work of his hand. Shared christology: you are our Father.

Reformed

Calvin: after being almost crushed, they lay hold on this altar: since God has been pleased to elect us to be his children, we ought to expect salvation from him even when matters are at the worst. We are the clay—they celebrate the mercy of God who out of mean clay determined to create children to himself. The work of thy hands is regeneration, on account of which believers are especially called the work of God.

“Father”—electing adoption and new creation, not a claim from the clay. Same Father as Wesley; the accent is undeserved election, not the clay’s worth.

Isaiah 64:9

9Don’t be furious, LORD. Don’t remember iniquity forever. Look and see, we beg you, we are all your people.

Arminian

Wesley: thy people—thou hast no people in covenant but us, and wilt thou not leave thyself a people in the world?

They plead the covenant remnant so he will not be without a people. Judah first; the church still says, we are all your people. Shared ground: be not angry forever; look, we are yours.

Reformed

Calvin: they do not shrink from judgment, but present themselves to be corrected so as not to faint. If God do not mercifully pardon, there will be no end of the chastisements. We all are thy people does not speak of each individual, but the whole body of the Church; this prayer was offered not for every one without distinction, but only for the children of God who were still left. They plead the covenant of free grace, not merits.

The small company of believers, not every bearer of the name. Same plea not to remember iniquity forever; the fork is who “all your people” are.

Key contrast Arminians find a covenant people he must not leave himself without in the world. Reformed interpreters typically hear the remaining children of God, not every individual who bore the name. Shared ground: be not angry beyond measure; we are thy people by free grace, not merit.

Isaiah 64:10

10Your holy cities have become a wilderness. Zion has become a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.

Arminian

Wesley has no separate note on this verse; the unit is the church’s complaint of afflictions after the burned house (vv. 6–12). Zion and Jerusalem are literally waste after the Babylonian stroke.

Judah’s cities have become a wilderness. Gospel church still grieves a desolated Zion. Shared ground with Calvin: these are his holy cities.

Reformed

Calvin: the Church recounts her miseries that she may move God to mercy. The cities have been reduced to a wilderness; Zion is a desert because it was the royal residence where God wished men to call upon him. They are cities of his holiness because he had sanctified people, cities, and land.

Consecrated places laid waste. Same desolation; they ask him to look at what bears his name.

Isaiah 64:11

11Our holy and our beautiful house where our fathers praised you is burned with fire. All our pleasant places are laid waste.

Arminian

Wesley: pleasant things—the king’s palace, and the houses of the nobles, and other pieces of state and magnificence.

The temple where the fathers praised him is burned—586, not a slogan. The church still names that house. Shared ground: our fathers praised you there.

Reformed

Calvin: they glory in nothing except the temple in which God wished to be adored. True glorying rested on his ordinance and word; Jeremiah 7:4 rebukes empty “temple of the Lord” talk. He mentions the fathers, not the present corrupt worship: wilt thou permit it to be profaned? The word praise denotes thanksgiving when he treated his people with kindness.

The testimony of union, now in ruins. Same burned sanctuary; they offer the fathers’ worship, not their own merits.

Isaiah 64:12

12Will you hold yourself back for these things, LORD? Will you keep silent and punish us very severely?

Arminian

Wesley: wilt thou—do none of these things move thee to take vengeance? Thy peace—wilt thou be as one that regards not?

They press him with the ruins. He is not actually indifferent; they plead as if he were silent. Affliction; the church still asks him not to keep silent. Shared close with Calvin: he will not let his glory be trampled forever.

Reformed

Calvin: the people strengthen themselves by assured confidence that God will not permit his glory to be trampled under foot. This yields no consolation to hypocrites. Our salvation is connected with his glory; he cannot deny himself (2 Tim 2:13). He will restrain his chastisements; his glory is deeply involved in our deliverance from death.

He cannot disregard his glory or his people. Same question to a silent Lord; hope is that he will not afflict beyond measure.

Historic quotes

Voices from both camps

On rending the heavens, a God besides whom none acts, and clay in the potter’s hand, a few classic voices from each tradition.

Arminian Notable voices

“Rent—A metaphor taken from men, that when they would resolutely help one in distress, break and fling open doors. Flow down—that all impediments might be removed; possibly an allusion to God’s coming down upon mount Sinai. Fire—come with such zeal for thy people that the solid mountains may be no more before thy breath than metal that runs. Besides thee—a plea that they might well expect such things from him now, that had done such wonderful things for their fathers. Waiteth—this may be taken with reference both to the state of grace and glory, those incomprehensible things exhibited through Christ in the mysteries of the gospel. Meetest—as the father the prodigal. Unclean—now we are all as one polluted mass. Our father—notwithstanding all this thou art our father both by creation and by adoption, therefore pity us thy children.”
John Wesley · Explanatory Notes upon the Old Testament (on Isa 64:1–6, 8)

Reformed Notable voices

“Here believers burst forth into earnest prayer. God is said to rend the heavens when he unexpectedly gives some uncommon proof of his power; when he renders no assistance he appears shut up in heaven. He alludes to Mount Sinai. Eye hath not seen a God besides thee—no ear hath heard, no eye hath seen, such a God as doeth such things to him that waiteth for him. Paul applies this to the gospel (1 Cor 2:9). Thou hast met him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness; they do not murmur but throw all the blame on themselves. We have all been as the unclean; our righteousnesses as a defiled garment. And now, O Jehovah—still they are his children; adoption alone could encourage them. We are the clay, and thou our potter.”
John Calvin · Commentary on Isaiah (on Isa 64:1–8)

Quotations lightly abridged for length; wording follows standard English translations of the sources named.

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